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« Reply #60 on: January 21, 2005, 10:49:35 AM »
Here is local story about a professor at my old school and one of his experiments on Huygens.  I knew who he was but I never took any of his classes.

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SPOKANE, Wash. (AP) -- David Atkinson spent 18 years designing an experiment for the unmanned space mission to Saturn. Now some pieces of it are lost in space. Someone forgot to turn on the instrument Atkinson needed to measure the winds on Saturn's largest moon.

"The story is actually fairly gruesome," the University of Idaho scientist said in an e-mail from Germany, the headquarters of the European Space Agency. "It was human error - the command to turn the instrument on was forgotten."

The mission to study Saturn and its moons was launched in 1997 from Cape Canaveral, Fla., a joint effort by NASA, the European agency and the Italian space agency. Last Friday, Huygens, the European space probe sent to the surface of Saturn's moon Titan, transmitted the first detailed pictures of the frozen surface.

Atkinson and his team were at European space headquarters in Darmstadt, Germany, waiting for their wind measurements to arrive.

The probe was to transmit data on two channels, A and B, Atkinson said. His Doppler wind experiment was to use Channel A, a very stable frequency.

But the order to activate the receiver, or oscillator, for Channel A was never sent, so the entire mission operated through Channel B, which is less stable, Atkinson said.

"I (and the rest of my team) waited and waited and waited," he wrote, as the probe descended. "We watched the probe enter and start transmitting data, but our instrument never turned on."

Officials for the European Space Agency said last week they would investigate to learn what happened. They were not available for comment on Thursday, nor did NASA officials immediately respond to telephone messages.

Atkinson wrote in his e-mail that fellow scientists rushed to comfort him and his team.

Most of his team has returned home, but Atkinson has remained in Germany because he still has a task to perform _ reconstructing the entry and descent trajectory of the probe.

There is hope that some of his data survived.

"We do have Channel B data and although driven by a very poor and unstable oscillator, we may be able to get a little bit of data," he wrote.

Also, he said some of the Channel A signal reached Earth and was picked up by radio telescopes. "We now have some of this data and lots of work to do to try to catch up," he wrote.

Even so, he said the overall space mission was a huge success, and the Europeans in particular were thrilled with the success of their Huygens probe.

"In total, the core of our team has invested something like 80 man years on this experiment, 18 of which are mine," Atkinson wrote. "I think right now the key lesson is this - if you're looking for a job with instant and guaranteed success, this isn't it."

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« Reply #61 on: January 26, 2005, 06:56:28 PM »
There is one thing I am confused about by the stories on the Huygens probe, and I hope someone here may know the answer.
In some stories the large dark areas in the photos are called 'seas' or 'lakes' and in other stories it is said to just be a dark flat land area, with liquid methane possibly under the surface. Is there disagreement among the scientists, or are the reporters just incompetent? Are they really methane seas or just dark areas?
I think a sonar experiment on the underside of the lander was supposed to answer such a question, but I have seen no mention of what results it gave, if any.
What me worry?

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« Reply #62 on: January 27, 2005, 11:56:08 AM »
madmax, here is a link to the APOD site that may help. There are additional links there . . .

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« Reply #63 on: June 09, 2005, 03:30:23 PM »
Two articles from ESA thru Spaceref.com on the discovery  of a methane producing volcano on Titan . . . .

Volcano on Titan I


Volcano on Titan II

Interesting images I might add :D
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« Reply #64 on: March 09, 2006, 01:06:32 PM »
Got this from the Druge Report.

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NASA'S CASSINI DISCOVERS POTENTIAL LIQUID WATER ON ENCELADUS Thu Mar 09 2006 11:21:33 ET

**Exclusive**
[Press release set for 2 PM ET release]
NASA's Cassini spacecraft may have found evidence of liquid water reservoirs that erupt in Yellowstone-like geysers on Saturn's moon Enceladus. The rare occurrence of liquid water so near the surface raises many new questions about the mysterious moon.
"We realize that this is a radical conclusion - that we may have evidence for liquid water within a body so small and so cold," said Carolyn Porco, Cassini imaging team leader at the Space Science Institute, Boulder, Colo. "However, if we are right, we have significantly broadened the diversity of solar system environments where we might possibly have conditions suitable for living organisms."
High-resolution Cassini images show icy jets and towering plumes ejecting huge quantities of particles at high speed. Scientists examined several models to explain the process. They ruled out the idea the particles are produced or blown off the moon's surface by vapor created when warm water ice converts to a gas. Instead, scientists have found evidence for a much more exciting possibility. The jets might be erupting from near-surface pockets of liquid water above 0 degrees Celsius (32 degrees Fahrenheit), like cold versions of the Old Faithful geyser in Yellowstone.
"We previously knew of at most three places where active volcanism exists: Jupiter's moon Io, Earth, and possibly Neptune's moon Triton. Cassini changed all that, making Enceladus the latest member of this very exclusive club, and one of the most exciting places in the solar system," said John Spencer, Cassini scientist, Southwest Research Institute, Boulder.
"Other moons in the solar system have liquid-water oceans covered by kilometers of icy crust," said Andrew Ingersoll, imaging team member and atmospheric scientist at the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, Calif. "What's different here is that pockets of liquid water may be no more than tens of meters below the surface."
"As Cassini approached Saturn, we discovered the Saturnian system is filled with oxygen atoms. At the time we had no idea where the oxygen was coming from," said Candy Hansen, Cassini scientist at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena. "Now we know Enceladus is spewing out water molecules, which break down into oxygen and hydrogen."
Scientists still have many questions. Why is Enceladus so active? Are other sites on Enceladus active? Might this activity have been continuous enough over the moon's history for life to have had a chance to take hold in the moon's interior?
In the spring of 2008, scientists will get another chance to look at Enceladus when Cassini flies within 350 kilometers (approximately 220 miles), but much work remains after the spacecraft's four-year prime mission is over.
"There's no question, along with the moon Titan, Enceladus should be a very high priority for us. Saturn has given us two exciting worlds to explore," said Jonathan Lunine, Cassini interdisciplinary scientist, University of Arizona, Tucson, Ariz.
Mission scientists report these and other Enceladus findings in this week's issue of Science.
The Cassini-Huygens mission is a cooperative project of NASA, the European Space Agency and the Italian Space Agency.
JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology



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« Reply #65 on: March 12, 2008, 10:30:07 PM »
Cassini just completed a flyby of the moon Enceladus.  Read about it in the NASA blog on the topic.  I think the blog is nicely done - wish NASA would do more of these types of things.

http://wiki.nasa.gov/cm/blog/Enceladus%20Flyby

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« Reply #66 on: June 05, 2008, 10:06:48 AM »
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Re: Cassini Probe
« Reply #67 on: June 06, 2008, 12:02:31 PM »
Thanks for the link Kel. Great pictures!! Especially the first one.
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Re: Cassini Probe
« Reply #68 on: June 07, 2008, 04:16:28 AM »
Well, they're quite dazzling!
I really don't know what to say...

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Re: Cassini Probe
« Reply #69 on: October 31, 2008, 11:20:31 PM »
I saw these pics of Enceladus: http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/10/enceladus_up_close.html
and remembered Lunar Orbit's post from the same website.  Amazing pictures.  Better than any sci-fi artist could draw or any CGI.  Beat that Lucas!

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« Reply #70 on: November 01, 2008, 05:52:47 PM »
Wow.  Thanks for that link, I hadn't seen the super close-up images yet.
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